There were 175 votes after pulling out all of the extra votes
people tried to sneak in. I can see some people hitting the vote button twice,
but ten times? That is a bit much dudes. Needless to say, all of your
effort was for naught....
But this is approximately seven times the number of respondents
I got on the first poll, and around what I was expecting to get via the DSC
poll. Under each question, I show the possible answers, the numbers of
responses for each answer, and the percentage of total responses for each
1) Do you want naval vessels
(ships, submarines) in MC2?
82 / 93
47% / 53%
2) Do you want VTOLs
(helicoptors) in MC2?
149 / 26
85% / 15%
3) Do you want Hover craft to go
169 / 6
97% / 3%
4) How do you want Mechs to
a) Like in MC (no walking at
b) Limited to shallow
c) Walk in all depths of water at
d) Like in BT (piloting rolls,
reduced speed, all that jazz)
5 / 54 / 29 /
3% / 31% / 17% / 49%
(If you add up the votes on
question 4, you will only get 173 votes. That is because two people couldn't
decide what they wanted and left the field blank.)
5) How would you like vehicles
portrayed in MC2?
a) same as in MC (single
weapon system, minimal armor)
b) tougher then
MC (single weapon system, heavier armor)
closer to Battletech (multiple weapons systems, heavier
d) Just like in Battletech (multiple
weapons systems, heavy armor, a threat to
9 / 7 / 59 /
5% / 4% / 34% / 57%
6) Do you want to be able to be
able to recover vehicles for use in future
158 / 17
90% / 10%
7) Do you play BattleTech the
95 / 80
54% / 46%
8) Do you play
174 / 1
99% / 1%
9) Which did you play
71 / 35 /
41% / 20% / 39%
10) How do you want non-omni
'Mech alteration to occur?
b. Cost money, but no time
c. Cost money and time
d. Like BT, costs money, long time
delay, random chance that it won't work.
34 / 48 / 50
25% / 19% / 27% / 29%
11) How do you want to handle
'Mech equipment placement
a. Like MC, computer
b. Simplified control. Place
weapons in areas, but computer controls secondary
c. Like BT, everything player
38 / 53 /
22% / 30% / 48%
12) How much power do you want in
a) Like MC, switch out
weaponry and equipment only.
b) Leave engines
and structure alone, but can edit all other
c) Like MW3, can switch
53 / 55 /
30% / 31% /
yup....99 percent total on that last
one.....doncha love rounding to the nearest percent?
General Feelings on the
The most prevelant responder, was the one who did not play
BTech, does play MC, and first played MW.
There were also many people who first played BTech, but don't
now, while they do play MC.
In addition, there were a large number of people in the
poll who first played MC and do not play BTech at all.
And an equally large number of people who first played BTech,
play it now, and play MC.
Somewhere around 60 percent of the pollsters play BTech, while
all but 1 of the 180 respondants play MC.
What surprises me is the relatively small number of people who
played MC first, while the vast majority have played either MW or BTech before
Those who have only played MC, were generally happier with the
way MC handled stuff, while those who have played BTech or MW first, usually
wanted more control.
As with most generatlizations, there were of course many people
who went against these standards....
Some votes were absolute blowouts, with 90 percent and higher
voting in one direction, while others were near-ties with allmost equal votes in
each direction. Vehicles in general appeared to be a VERY hot topic, while
'Mechs were a bit on the cooler side.
My take on the votes
1) once again, this one barely got less then a fifty percent
vote......it is a shame most people don't see the beauty of naval
2) 85% want helicopters.....that seems to be a rather heavy
request for saying we want them. Of course, considering we are using the MC/G
engine, I don't know if it will make it in even the MC2 team wanted to put it
3) 97 % want hovercraft to go over water. Even MORE strong then
the last one, and this idea shouldn't be as hard to implement as the above
4) 3% liked water management it the way it was in MC/G.....but
fixing it is harder to decide. 97% of the respondents wanted to walk through
shallow water. 66% wanted to walk through all levels water at a slower rate of
speed. And 49% wanted to add in piloting roles and possible falling to walking
in or under water.
5) 5% liked vehicles the way they were in MC/G, 95% wanted
vehicles with more armor, 91% wanted vehicles with more armor and weaponry, and
57% (still a clear majority) wanted the vehicles to have similar weapons and
armor to their BTech counterparts.
6) 90% of respondents wanted vehicles to be recovered for future
use.....Between questions 3, 5, and 6, we see that by FAR, the majority of
respondents believe vehicles
were jipped as far as usability goes. Even if
brought up to BTech quality, vehicles will STILL be far weaker then
mechs.....but at least they will be a credible threat....right now, they
aren't...and we want them to be.
7) 54% of those who responded play the BTech board game, so you
can't say that all of these 90% votes are just BTech players ranting.....there
are a LOT of present MC players and people who don't play BTech who want these
8) Pure and simple....only one person who does not play MC voted
in this poll.....
9) 41% played BTech first, while a nearly equal number played MW
first. That leaves the number of people who played MC first at 20%. So four out
of five people who frequent this site (by extension are currently active playing
MC/G) and are looking forward to buying MC2 (otherwise why they would they
vote?) first saw the BTech universe via BTech and MW. So story elements that
don't make sense with the BTech story will stand out badly....as will stuff like
'Mechs that are the wrong weight...et cetera.....
10) As for altering standard 'Mechs...it was a more across the
board response. One quarter of the respondents liked the way it was, but that
leaves 75% that think it should cost money at the very least to change the
payload of a standard 'Mech. 56% want there to also be a time delay, and 29%
want there to also be a change that it don't work. It seems that the one
that would get the least number of ticked off people would be option b...costs
money with no time delay. That is the wat MW2 mercs handled it, and people
seemed to like it.
11) Another of the more across the board responses. 22% liked it
computer controlled (but I'm sure fixing the righ arm bug would make us MUCH
happier). But 78% want to be able to place the weapons and other combat
equipment in their locations to keep from HAVING the right arm bug or other
similar things. In the final category, 48%, just short of a majority, want to be
able to design with the full BTech critical placement and everything. Once
again, option b seems as though it would make the largest number of people
happy....let us place the weapons and combat eq....but leave the rest computer
12) This was the MOST across the board response on the poll.
Nearly equal numbers wanted each category.... 30% want it the way it is in MC,
but 70% want to be able to adjust JJs, armor and other non-engine and
non-structure attributes of the mech. 38% want to be able to work on ANYTHING
like in MW3 or BTech. Once again, option b seems to be the one most
popular. Allowing us to tweak anything short of engines and structure seems like
the most wanted option.
What does this all say?
People want the Vehicles much more powerful, and want a little
more control in 'Mech editing. Is this a "we want" list? Yes. Can it be ignored
because of that? I don't think so.
Yes, the first poll with 24 or so respondents would be easy to
ignore. You can make the same arguament with this poll....175 people
responded....but where do you make the distinction between a poll that means
something and one that doesn't? Do we have to poll EVERYONE who owns MC/G?
DSC is one of the last of the fully online and attended websites where people
who still play MC/G post on and read. People still playing MC are most
likely to buy MC2, so those who respond to this poll will be most likely to buy
This poll says a lot......but it can't force you to do